However it might be helpful with comparing a true pedophile to stealthy

So a rando?

No its a real person

Or what

It's not

Is it a rando

Like

I don't see how its relevant to Nat or the situation

I mean like

Who is ugly asf

Obviously

Who knows my age

Who is this?

.

.

???

Bc this ain't OK

Don’t talk with them, who even are they, Christ.

HELPPPPP

Then just get to the point "I know the allegations, and they are true..."

I don't want it to sound like a YouTuber sounding sorry for something they're not really sorry for I want to show how I truly feel, I want it to be genuine and from the heart.

"Regarding the accusations"

How do I start it and make the beginning?

The thing is I need to take full accountability without making it look like I'm excusing it or begging for sympathy

Alr include this and how this made it even worse

It was priv

Was that the one thar got sussed or?

We gotta keep tabs on those two accounts

Deleted her Decemberuwu acc

I was also in at least two server that were super sexual... with both minors and adults together in them, which reenforced this. I don't have any screenshots of this though, those servers have been gone a very long time.

Again, we were the same age. However, I was sexual with adult friends as well, who very much knew I was underage.

Alr

She deactivated her bea acc

How so?

explain your thought process

Which btw, he got with me the same day I found out my first bf was a catfish and I broke up with him.

if it were me i would explain how you thought it was okay because you got groomed when you were 16 into sending nudes by your at the time SO explain that your going to go to a therapist and work it out

alright

I think I just need advice and guidance atm

10-4

Someone keep tabs on that

writing it if ya need

How so?

i can help

I need some guidance on how to write my accentuality document

at that point I'm done with December full stop

no other response or comments

But even just trying could be the last thread holding her back from doing worse

Yeah, there's nothing we can do

you cant exactly Help someone when they refuse to cooperate

If we abandon her entirely though she'll just be even more sucked into the Neo-ValidLs

she is choosing to not listen to us

What do you want me to tell her?

December cannot be trusted with her own safety

For her own safety yeah, like her dad or something.

yeah

December?

like forcibly take away her internet access, make sure she can't acces twitter at all

Also Christ December

so transphobia and contuniteing to play this sharade

Ah transphobia too

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1302027959506436159/1302085099772317749/image0.png?ex=6726d4bf&is=6725833f&hm=724887178e7d206b84cf07b9d563bbad2097f447bea989ae3c6356670098b6f1&

You can take one look at how the Neo-ValidLs treat her especially and see this

I initially berated December and am now having a nice chat and getting along

yeah thats nice

What’s ironic is I did the opposite

and comparing what happend to rape?

Exactly

its funny how they only care to a certin extent

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1302027959506436159/1302076724443353139/image0.png?ex=6726ccf2&is=67257b72&hm=051298e8cb5273fe8906010b9327e54f3a0896af16a38dadb6cf92e056a3cc70&

what was the og post?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1302027959506436159/1302075971754524732/image0.png?ex=6726cc3f&is=67257abf&hm=b6045f90f2edc8a055cd2bcdedf61f7d4d4c230e928370ce451059b15b0d90e2&

This too

especially when she's posting suggestive pics on her twitter

I mean there was literally a reply she made to someone about chasity and her masturbation habits, which I was hesitating to even screenshot as evidence.

a 17 year old is kinda crazy to be commenting on sexual kinks

still, we should try to get this out as soon as possible

I mean like, think of all the high profile real predators that you see get exposed all the time, who are still just… out and about. Considering my case is just the result of not knowing any better, and I’m super unknown, I don’t think it would result in anything.

That doesn’t mean she won’t try

She doesn’t know my actual identity or where I live

I feel like there won’t be one if we aren’t faster than Natalie can try getting you arrested

yeah

I will, and I’ll send the proof too (although I’ll have to censor things in the audio recording so I don’t dox myself).

make sure to mention that you are getting therapy

I need to make my accountability doc first

Make a document full of evidence that Natalie is a criminal

I don’t want my life to be ruined, I’m literally this close getting the help I need, my mom emailed a local mental health center (I forgot what it was called). She was planning on calling but that was with a different place, and she wasn’t able to call them apparently.

Same

I just want to have a normal life

Likewise on the being left alone part (and I guess laying low too)

likewise on the laying low part

I just want to lay low and be left alone

Idk

Also what are we gonna do about Natalie

.

I already told that to December when she apologized to me

Wait should I tell December not to interact with Natalie?

Also I don’t have massive tits unfortunately

phew

Yeah I don’t look nearly that pretty irl

Oh that is some random ass person XD

@TCStealthy (Fursuit soon)

Also I don’t pass at all irl

ill try

Well can you find it then? I have literally no memory of this, plus my hair is brown and I’ve never posted a picture of my face anywhere since I was a minor.

Maybe blocked

like i said i thought it was you

Yes but I have a super common first and last name, and every one they found with that pairing of names has been wrong.

thought it was you

What was even the image btw?

so the tweet is gone

I mean report my account

also

Report you where?

All December has to do is not report me, because Nat can’t do that on her own.

hold on

I don’t even know what the image is, I have no idea what anyone is referring to and it’s starting to upset me.

so that wasnt you?

I remember literally nothing

and that led to what i said to her

remeber when fier sayd "when the fuction got spe-"

Do they have last name?

What picture exactly?

what about that picture they were spamming awhile ago?

Nat doesn’t even know my actual dox yet besides from my deadname, so there’s nothing she can do.

So we gotta beat her to it

Hey at least we know Nats plan

But honestly

Aww she wanted to warn us

Nat was verbally and emotionally abusive towards her, and also heavily harassed her.

She literally dmed me when I said she added me as a friend on here

What is December doing exactly and why is she talking with Nat, and how did Joey get those screenshots?

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/5431812448791-How-long-Discord-keeps-your-information#:~:text=Once%20you%20delete%20content%2C%20it,content%20that%20violates%20our%20policies).

if they get it to court though

There's the ss posted on X

Well considering the fact that I have none anywhere, and December and I purged everything, there’s nothing to find.

Cali

get them off ur trail

Uhhhhh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1302027959506436159/1302028105388527647/Screenshot_20241101_175359_Discord.png?ex=67269faa&is=67254e2a&hm=26bb47d9aa203af6c15a5a4b234e926f737e96dbae20e16a0129bb4217470b13&

everything @JoeySkyde

Because it’s not done… yet. I have another document I need to work on rn as you know

Along with the blatantly malicious and morally bankrupt stuff

Forward / ss all msgs and send em here like I did

Yeah but it’s so disorganized

I mean the main document is gunna do that

I'm clear, just checked all posts with axie or axiedafur in it

besides the shit i said to fier (which i regret it was the heat of the momment) and me calling them dipshits and insulting them and me "making rape jokes" (which never happend btw and they dont have any proof to back it up) im good

specifically that stuff

I think having a document of all the illegal shit they’ve done should be made

We honestly just need the Neo-ValidLs forced off of the internet

I'll have to check again

(And she still posted about me)

Nat hasn't dm'ed me yet so I should be good

The only dirt on me is being an asshole that berated a child, but I said sorry before Nat posted about it

And a fwb who I've known for months

😭

That's ex's

i dont even send nudes to my SO

Only like, 4 ppl have mine

but yeah idk how yall just send nudes like that but thats just me

prob best

Still deleted

nvm

It was thigh high pics lmao

ngl

Suggestive

you didnt dm her any nudes right?

There's nothing against me

all they have on me is just "banter"

as long as you didnt dm dec anytjiong

But seeing how I got no dirt, I should be clear

December could have put me on their radar

Plus I don’t think the Neo-ValidLs have any reason to suspect you

Wdym? Also from what I remember, she always took awhile to respond.

im watching everything

Ivht

dw

Check again

ik

@Fritz

dont give anything away

tread lightly

Or just being a slow replyer

if she truly wants to atone, firstly she can stop hanging around Nat and Pawbs like I told her to

and she ends up sending it to dipshit

up to you there

Can you get her to stop being around Neo-ValidLs? She’s still talking with Nat

Friend req me

Look at the people who support the Neo-ValidLs, or even just those who severally under-react to them.

alr good

Ye

(look at trump supporters)

what im saying is no matter how much ya try theres still gonna be idoits who belived anything even with undeiable proof

Twitter folk don’t have good opinions and should never be listened to, any sane person would understand.

but its the court of public opinion

legely yeah

You met December when you were both minors, you’re good.

and all the work and effort I put into it will be for nothing

The one you invited me to months back?

my public server

Wdym Acre?

I've worked on this server for over a year now, I can't lose all that work

@JoeySkyde @Axie you two alright?

alr

some are confused about what's going on, but me and those of my friends who do know are choosing to keep our mouths shut

good

No, nothing

anything come up in ur server?

great

and i'm doing good

I'm glad to hear that

@Axie you as well

good

My mom and I are trying to schedule an appointment right now

I am not smart

That’s was where I was born

Ohio?

@JoeySkyde you could call them

And I’m surprised you live alone

I’m in Georgia he’s in Michigan

I see

They’re long distance

What about your SO?

It doesn’t make me less alone in this apartment

I’d bring you food if I could tbh

I won't ever ask anything of you again

Hey

I don’t want to get up from bed, I just want to lay here and starve

Joey bud no

Joey you’re a good person at heart and we need you, your bf needs you, we don’t need any more horrible things to happen this year.

👆

1

Fritz

jackaltheprotogen1

👆

Close

Dont

Ay

I’m sorry everyone but right now I feel like I’ve lost the will to live

I can certainly try, but the main document on the larger situation needs to wait while I make my accountability document, and also try to mentally recover and handle what’s going on for my end.

Do you think y’all can organize it?

Idk how up to date that copy is honestly-

.

Can one of ya dm me the doc?

Says the one who called Nat hot, has her call them dad, and interacted with Nat’s suggestive content. Same standards should apply if they’re gunna pull that card, especially considering that all that group does is project and deflect. It’s also wild that they literally fabricated an argument that I still don’t believe in, never expressed, lied about me having a savior complex for Calvin (whom I despise), and then use it to make me out as weird and comically wrong.

I didn't see one

eh

I think their Spooky fursuit making account (the one I linked) is at least is sfw, unless there’s a minors DNI that I missed.

I would but im a minor

I did

On an unrelated note though, my maker is feeling really discouraged with their fursuit making stuff, if any of y’all can show them some love that’d be appreciated. 🥺 https://x.com/SpookyBeetle_/status/1852339611336360097

🎃Spooky🦇 (@SpookyBeetle_) on X

I don’t think I’ll be taking fursuit commissions anymore… It breaks my heart because I love doing it\. But I’ve had a lot of difficulty with being blocked as soon as an invoice is sent\. This is my full time job and I cannot keep having back and forth for hours just to be blocked\.

Twitter • 11/01/2024 09:19:12 EDT

I mean at least she didn’t block you

Blue unfollowed me on BlueSky, we really need to talk with her soon. I’m crushed…

Either way Jake has good advice

Yeah I get that now, but what’s the difference between logging out and just simply not using the account, how would anyone be able to tell the difference and not just say that I’m still doing so behind closed doors?

Logging off with accountability as pinned lets them know you’re taking a looong break with therapy

Deactivating gets rid of the message (which is bad) and long enough can delete your account (also bad)

Btw if I don’t respond for a few hours or just a long-ish period of time, I’m probably either asleep or taking a bath. Just letting y’all know in case I take awhile reply to anything

What does logging off do btw? That’s the difference between that and just like… not using the account?

I asked Jake what you should do about if you should log off or deactivate and here’s his response

No I’m just garbage at texting and wording things through texts, you’ve seen how often I have to make edits. I just don’t catch that one is all, because I didn’t think it would be misinterpreted.

Is it though? Or is a part of your conscience trying to hide more sinister motives in an attempt to feel less guilty?

That’s the problem, she doesn’t know how wrong it was of me. If she ever gets hostile or weirdly defensive towards you or any of y’all when you’re trying to help her, tell her this came straight from me.

It feels like you’re more concerned about her thinking you did it intentionally in that sentence, rather than if she saw it as wrong

No no Joey, what I did, she’s not at fault for the sexual stuff.

Who cares if she thinks you did it intentionally or not? All that matters is that she sees it as wrong

The problem is I still think she believes I did absolutely nothing wrong, judging by her and I’s final conversation before cutting her off, and some of the text that y’all have forwarded to me.

Also I’m still concerned about this She needs to learn that while I didn’t intend any harm, what I was doing with her was not normal or at all ok, and that it’s not ok for any adult to do to her even if they are a younger adult.

But I dissected your sentence here

Didn’t Omari still do worse?

You were sexual with her and exchanged nudes I’d say that’s far worse than simple dating

Also I wasn’t dating December, that’s a line I didn’t cross. Does that make it much better? Not really, but the facts matter regardless of what way they go.

Not much different than dating a 16 yr old

I think Omari dating a 14 year old and being an overall massive pos is a lot different

Look, I asked Jake which one of our ideas would be better (he dealt with Omari so he might have experience)

That’s fair, but still.

Also staying logged off keeps the post in plain sight for all to see

Deactivating both accounts after making the post will show that I’m being responsible and actually staying off of Twitter, if I just log out then it’ll look like I’m sneakily still using the site in the shadows. Plus I’ve found deactivating is keep at keeping me off the site tbh, and prevents some harassment.

It sends a better message

I plan to deactivate everything after making the post, but idk how long I should wait on that considering the post needs to be seen.

At some point you’ll have to face the inevitable and admit to them what you did

I don’t tell my parents anything about who I really am or my private life for good reason, they don’t need to know this as it’ll just make things so much worse and harder to navigate. All I need use for them to be the bridge to get me to a therapist, because they have the insurance and knowledge of how to do everything.

When you make the post I want you to log out of Twitter (ad too)

I’m not going to call them out myself, when I do so in the doc they hopefully won’t know it’s me, I’m not using Twitter after I make the accountability post. I’ll only use that site if absolutely necessary for whatever reason

So they can help you with the proper treatment

Plus my help aside, what about December? She needs help to unlearn this stuff too, due to me unintentionally passing down this cycle due to thinking it was just… normal. She deserves help much more than I do, it’s not fair that I get help and she doesn’t.

I am going to therapy, but I need to figure out how to because there’s a lot of factors that I have to worry about. Such as how to get a queer and sexual trauma specialist without my parents knowing anything of what’s going on? How do I find the right therapist in the first place? How does the process work? How do I do like… anything in this process really? I was constantly bombarding Acre with questions to try to figure this out, but he doesn’t have all the answers. I want to make this happen as soon as possible, and it’s upsetting that I can’t make it happen as fast as I want to.

I’m just saying you have to take a bit of a chill pill when trying to call them out We both hate them and that’s okay, it’s just you can’t rush in expecting to win

Also that first message from her here pisses me off Like “done worse?”, last I checked Veronica Joey isn’t an emotional manipulator who jerks off in front on non-consenting people, and that’s not even mentioning everything else. Also “attacked every day”? Yeah that straight up doesn’t happen to her, or any of the Neo-ValidLs, always playing victim and trying to look sympathetic.

I need to know where you’re going and stuff, think of me like an attorney

I am trying to, but that doesn’t happen overnight, I was just talking with Acre yesterday about trying to find one.

I do, but it won’t matter to Veronica because she’s actually defecting form what she did, which was infinitely worse.

Stealthy, please just go to therapy asap

That’s probably because of me playing a dominant role which makes it look worse The vast majority of everyone I’ve done it with end up with me in dominant roles, due to for some reason everyone being submissive. December was the one I tried to let take the reins, hence why I always tried to do what she wanted even to my own detriment.

You did something shitty, and I really want you to prove you regret it

That last part… I saw those DMs and you looked malicious in some of them

I’m not trying to deflect onto someone I hate, but no matter what I’m going to say it as it is, regardless of who that works or doesn’t work in favor towards.

We will take care of her FOR you

And she doesn’t have selfish motivations for herself? As I said she’s done infinitely worse, to more people even with clear malicious intent. What you were doing before is right, especially considering that this wasn’t grooming, considering that requires actual intent. As I said, there’s a huge difference between intentionally doing something wrong for a wrong reason, and doing something wrong due to have no idea that it was.

I do have selfish motivations to help you stealthy

Yeah I wouldn’t cave to Veronica considering she’s a massive hypocrite, and a lot worse.

I sent screenshots earlier of this post claiming you “defend pedos”, using the out of context conversation you had with this person about Veronica as “evidence”. Considering that Nat is all buddy-buddy with both these people, this can certainly be some potential infighting.

Joey it doesn’t look good if I don’t just go all in with the accountability post, something that will probably take until the end of the day to finish. anything said would make me look even worse than doing nothing.

I am genuinely afraid of what might happen

Oh boy…

She needs to confront this shit and not block/hide

Yeah but she doesn’t have to make herself look worse

We're fucked either way ngl

my god you are fucking awful at this

You couldn’t have told pixel you were making an apology?

Then my position gets exposed

Also someone needs to have a talk with December about still being around Nat’s group

As I always said, it’s all connected. We need Nat’s account down as soon as possible, this is a serial harasser and a stalker to outright dangerous levels.

>:c

We don't need feds

Ay

What

not saying I'll shoot but odds are defense will be needed

You closer?

lemme do it

Mb

Not 233

It's 234

Curious

I don't blame her for not wanting to completely involve herself, honestly all I care about is getting nat suspended

But she also didn't want in last time I asked her yesterday

Gary's pretty good with tech and even has a few ties to some hacktivist groups iirc, so she's probably better equipped to handle this than any of us

I’m glad to hear it, I hope whatever she’s doing works.

She also spam reported Nat

Gary's talking to some cybersecurity folks she knows about that

Is there any way we can get Nat’s account suspended?

Ah

The best part if that if I’m remembering correctly, this is out of context, the pedo that person is referring to with Joey is actually none other than Veronica. Joey pretended to not be against Veronica for awhile because he was scared of her targeting him and his bf, if I’m remembering correctly.

I have to screenshot then click a button that comes up

Unless Joey clears them we gotta keep guard up

They're dming somone we do not know and has had connections with Joey

I figured it out I think

Elaborate?

I'll figure it out brb

Should be like a down arrow

I have an s20

There's a button on newer androids

How do yall ss the entire page again on a phone?

The last one is bad

I’m more concerned about this and the other screenshot

Also she follows him

I feel like that’s nothing compared to Nat and her friend group as they already are

Just on his sfw acc

Also Stormi is in her 30s, and Blue of course is my age.

Bc brain stupid

I typo

Thought you were being deadass

Maybe

And I have no sense of humor and take everything seriously

Mb

I see

Nat sympathizer and also was an overall asshole when I worked with him during the earlier days of the situation

Chdck*

Do you see "Jerma985"?

Axie I’m pretty sure that’s a joke about the famous streamer known as Jerma, unless I’m missing something.

Follows Nat

What Keys do?

My entire blocklist

I wanna look at it

I have Nat blocked on Bluesky

What's her bsky